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]]> Comment on Stupefied by stupid EBRPD decision by Brent http://btceb.org/blog/?p=49&cpage=1#comment-8 Brent Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:17:18 +0000 http://btceb.org/blog/?p=49#comment-8 A cyclists is no more inclined to hunt, harm, harass, capture, trap, wound, injure, kill, shoot, or collect a Alameda whipsnake than any other user on the trail. A hiker, equestrians, golfer, dog, steam train rider, or car, are all just as likely to "take" a snake as a cyclists. And as a cyclists I'm just as likely to harm a snake on Wildcat Trail, Gorge Trail, Quarry Trail, Ridge Trail, etc. South Park Drive (a road) runs right next to Vollmer Peak Trail. A car is OK but a bike is not? Cyclists currently ride the majority of Vollmer Peak Trail and then have to exit onto South Park Drive and Grizzly Peak Blvd before connect back up to the Vollmer Peak Trail at the Stream Train parking lot. We're talking about .2 miles of trails (which would actual make the current loop shorter). This has nothing to do with CH or Endangered Species. It is once again the typical EBRPD response whenever cyclists ask for equal access. Cyclists more than any other user group have repeatedly ask that the fire roads in our local parks be converted to more environmentally sensitive trails (Which I'm sure would be a benefit to the snakes. Mountain bikers, like any other park user share the goal of protecting our environment. Read the first section of the CH ruling "Procedural and Resource Difficulties in Designating Critical Habitat". How does trying to alientate one of the largest user groups in the park, work towards the goal of protecting the Alameda whipsnake? A cyclists is no more inclined to hunt, harm, harass, capture, trap, wound, injure, kill, shoot, or collect a Alameda whipsnake than any other user on the trail. A hiker, equestrians, golfer, dog, steam train rider, or car, are all just as likely to “take” a snake as a cyclists. And as a cyclists I’m just as likely to harm a snake on Wildcat Trail, Gorge Trail, Quarry Trail, Ridge Trail, etc.

South Park Drive (a road) runs right next to Vollmer Peak Trail. A car is OK but a bike is not? Cyclists currently ride the majority of Vollmer Peak Trail and then have to exit onto South Park Drive and Grizzly Peak Blvd before connect back up to the Vollmer Peak Trail at the Stream Train parking lot. We’re talking about .2 miles of trails (which would actual make the current loop shorter).

This has nothing to do with CH or Endangered Species. It is once again the typical EBRPD response whenever cyclists ask for equal access. Cyclists more than any other user group have repeatedly ask that the fire roads in our local parks be converted to more environmentally sensitive trails (Which I’m sure would be a benefit to the snakes. Mountain bikers, like any other park user share the goal of protecting our environment.

Read the first section of the CH ruling “Procedural and Resource Difficulties in Designating Critical Habitat”. How does trying to alientate one of the largest user groups in the park, work towards the goal of protecting the Alameda whipsnake?

]]> Comment on Stupefied by stupid EBRPD decision by TRUMAN http://btceb.org/blog/?p=49&cpage=1#comment-7 TRUMAN Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:19:09 +0000 http://btceb.org/blog/?p=49#comment-7 I think you misunderstand the reason for the closure. It is not because of the proposed critical habitat (you are right - it only applies to Federal agencies), but because the threatened Alameda whipsnake is protected under the Endangered Species Act from "take" Take is defined as "hunt, harm, harass, capture, trap, wound, injure, kill, shoot, or collect, or to attempt to engage in any such activity." Thus, a biker who runs over an Alameda whipsnake could be charged with violating the Endangered Species Act. It also is possible EBRPD could be charged for allowing bikers in an area where there is a good chance they could take an Alameda whipsnake. It does happen - a Bay Area developer paid a million dollars for killing two protected California red-legged frog a few years ago. I think you misunderstand the reason for the closure. It is not because of the proposed critical habitat (you are right – it only applies to Federal agencies), but because the threatened Alameda whipsnake is protected under the Endangered Species Act from “take” Take is defined as “hunt, harm, harass, capture, trap, wound, injure, kill, shoot, or collect, or to attempt to engage in any such activity.” Thus, a biker who runs over an Alameda whipsnake could be charged with violating the Endangered Species Act. It also is possible EBRPD could be charged for allowing bikers in an area where there is a good chance they could take an Alameda whipsnake. It does happen – a Bay Area developer paid a million dollars for killing two protected California red-legged frog a few years ago.

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